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BEATLES ANORAKS AND GUIREANS LINEUPS 2 - THE STEEEVUN CONNECTION (1981/2)

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nelsonmacantshronaich (Original Message)

Sent: 06/11/2001 20:03

Talking of early Guireans lineups, the Mean Time and The Dark Visit... I was chust speculating...

When Roddy ('Ey, I'm John Lennon, me, like) Huggan joined the Guireans in 1982 he was a fully formed Beatles Anorak. How did this happen?

One theory goes that this was all the work of Glasgow exile in Uist (re-exiled to Lewis) Steeeevun "Maaaan" Macdonald. Steeeeeevun strummed a very laid back axe for the Visit, (despite the fact that they were supposed to be hard rockin' dudes) and was a frequent habitue of the Coll Centre in 1981, playing support to Roddy's idols the Mean Time. He also wanted to be Paul Macartney (except he played guitar).

Rumour has it that Roddy had never heard of the moptops at this time, and only had ears for the Mean Time, one of his brother's Hawkwind records and the theme music off Dr Who. It is said that he experienced a blinding conversion one night in Coll when he witnessed the lethargic Weejie's feeble attempts to play tasteful George Harrison minor chords behind Wilbur's freeform atonal harmonica wailing on "Nail Me To The Floor".

Just as well Steeeeeeeeeeeeevun went away tae Glaaaasgow tae be, like, a polisman or a graphuc designer or something, maaaan - otherwise he'd have formed a top Beatles tribute band with Roddy, and "Jazz Mucus" would never have happened...

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memphis_louie in response to Message 1

Sent: 06/11/2001 21:48

strangely close to the truth this theory. the beatles introduction was through a macdonald but not steeeeevun, but the semi-comatose axeman did introduce me to a fab band ( but not the fabs ). i'll explain -

1979 at one of the macdonald sisters ( the famous girl band ) houses in stornoway, sgt pepper was on the tape deck, result - instant conversion to the house of fab.

1981 steeeevun lends me a copy of the eponymous doors 1st album, instantly hooked on the lizard king motif ( best demonstrated on the classic unreleased Mean Time track ' Laid Back and Watching ' )

ps if you can find a copy buy Hawkwind's ' Levitation ' album with ol' Ginger Baker guesting on drums - stick the volume up to ' bleed ' setting and die happy

pps the subtle dr who theme tune from Colin Bakers 2nd season is surely the best ?

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TotenkopfFriml in response to Message 2

Sent: 08/12/2001 20:44

Oh, no. Surely the classic Pertwee/T. Baker arrangement? Or failing that, the Oatcakes' blend of trad Irish jig and Ron Grainer's finest, Doctor Monaghan's Jig.

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From: Peatboy Funk in response to Message 3

Sent: 09/12/2001 21:40

Must agree. Pertwee/Baker far superior in terms of theme and episodes. Rapid decline in everything Who-ular once Tom Bombadilbaker hung up his time travelling wellies.

And hey Roddy H, surely J*** Sc**** has the copyright on the name C****** A****. I hear he's planning on releasing a limited edition of C.A. action figures which will undoubtadly become as collectable as all them Star Wars figures, so you may have some serious legal battles ahead of you. Apparently if you pull a string on the dolls back she'll ask you for a fag or swear at you.

I hear McDonald Maciver & Co are quite good lawyers (but only if its to do with sheep subsidy or getting you planning permission for erecting a peatstack) If you come under severe financial presure maybe we could all get together for a charity AGOFR concert or tie in single to raise the dosh?

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memphis_louie in response to Message 4

Sent: 09/12/2001 22:21

aha,

you must be confusing me, named after Kirsty Alone from Point, with the original Chirsty Alone. it's a similar mistake to mistaking Roddy Morrison, Meantime/Totenkopffriml rock god with Rod Morison, twangy drug-chic folk-rock god.

no danger of being sued although uncannily enough the two aforementioned blones were sisters ?!?

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From: Peatboy Funk in response to Message 5

Sent: 10/12/2001 15:43

Ahhhhhhhh, nods head wisely.So it was her that Canadian rock-sisters Heart sang about on their 1987 powerballad 'Alone'??

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memphis_louie in response to Message 6

Sent: 10/12/2001 19:24

yus boy,

didya know that Heart were originally from Bennadrove. like the awesome Dunring-boys their name metamorphasised from Ceard to Ceart to Heart. this metamorphasis continues to the present day, they are now called Blur, having been Take That and Pulp amongst others along the way.

the answer to their refrain ' how do i get you Alone ? ' was of course ' ply me with 4 Crown and crash me a Woodbine cove '

twas said that their producer was none other than the legendery Bill Drummond but i know that it was really his sister Bella.

must dash, time for my medication meow, bark, meaow, bark

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memphis_louie in response to Message 4

Sent: 12/12/2001 22:20

just for fun as there seem to be a few Who fans posting

best listened to from behind the sofa, preferably some 6 to10 miles from the stereo

TOM BAKER ADVERT ( by the Meantime, not one of their shining moments )

you had a long scarf curly hair and a grin

but i liked john pertwee 'cause he had a car called bessie

you married lalla ward 'cause she was rich and her father was a lord

but you got divorced soon afterwards, oh my

you were the doctor for longer than anyone else

but adric came along and spoiled it, and lalla ward left as well

i wasn't disappointed to see you go

but i was suprised they replaced you with a vet, who only lasted three years

in 1984 i thought you'd returned and dyed your hair blonde

but i had misread the credits, and besides you'd had a haircut

now all you do is voiceovers on adverts for scottish widows and things

and you're not even scottish, but sylvester mccoy is

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From: Peatboy Funk in response to Message 8

Sent: 13/12/2001 12:58

An excellent musical tribute to the Doc. You should have perhaps sent it to the Beeb to see if they'd use it as the theme. And, slightly worried about turning this message board into a sad(der) anorak type Dr Who posting board,what was the best episode ever. I say The Ark In Space, the one with the Wirn planting eggs in colonists and turning them into really really realistic giant ant-things. It was down hill after this.

I wish there were more postings of this quality on the Run Dingles web site. Not even the bloody band can be ar*** posting messages :(

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memphis_louie in response to Message 9

Sent: 13/12/2001 22:57

i think one of the verses of Tom's Advert got lost in the time vortex.

roddy ' twiggy stardust ' morrison may be able to help retrieve it with his trusty time scoop doctor.

Enlightenment is my current favourite Dr Co story, spaceships which look like sailing ships, Valentine Dyall with a pigeon instead of a hat on his head, Gladys Emmanuel from Open All Hours and Leeeeeeeeee Johns from sexeeeeeeee funkmasters Imagination, they could have rolled it up to Eden Court at xmas time and called it a Panto ( mind you they could also have done that with all of Mccoys first season, what am i talking about - they did )

i wonder if any Dr Who story titles could be Guireanised ?

' The Greatest Show In The Galaxy ( Suite ) ' springs to mind.

or ' The Horns Of My Ram '

vworp, vworp, vworp

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nelsonmacantshronaich in response to Message 10

Sent: 14/12/2001 13:00

Huidh! This iss supposed to be a Guireans website but there's nothing on it these days but Dr Who, Dr Who and more Dr Who. As if there isn't enough sad sites elsewhere for the even sadder legions of deluded coves (it's always coves) who spend all their time thinking of Time Lords when they should be thinking of The Lord Himself.

Falbh 's listen to Dead Ringers on Radio 4 (Friday 6:30, Saturday 12:30). They're always phoning up Kwik-Fit in a Tom Baker voice and asking for a quantum tunnelling warp oscillator drive for their Tardis, and stuff. Maybe that'll keep youse from leading good living Guireans fans astray with your nonsense.

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TotenkopfFriml in response to Message 10

Sent: 14/12/2001 17:32

"The Gaelic Master's Plan" - surely you hadn't forgotten that one

"The Curse of Feannags"

"An Unholy Child"

And anyway, it was Lleee John, like in Welsh

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memphis_louie in response to Message 12

Sent: 14/12/2001 19:34

how about ' the Tweeds of Loom ' ( Seeds of Doom )

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nelsonmacantshronaich in response to Message 13

Sent: 15/12/2001 16:02

Settle Down!

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TotenkopfFriml in response to Message 14

Sent: 15/12/2001 16:31

Settle down? No chance. What about:

"Vengeance in Valtos"

"Morrison Undead"

"Plasterfield"

"Shader" (unfinished)

or (if J*** S***** was playing the Doctor):

The TV Movie

This could go on for ever. But it probably won't.

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GothCove1 in response to Message 15

Sent: 22/12/2001 11:13

Dr Who......worst show ever!!

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TotenkopfFriml in response to Message 16

Sent: 20/12/2002 13:38

Ok, I'm a year late in replying to this, but it chust occurred to me that the Mean Time Groupie's hatred for the good Doctor could be rather more sinister than it appears. In the 1976 Tom Baker story The Deadly Assassin, the Doctor returns to Gallifrey to prevent his evil nemesis the Master from taking over the universe or blowing it up or something, but is hampered in his efforts by the Master's servant: a sinister, shadowy figure involved in the planet's bureacracy although not actually in a position of power. His name? Goth. I think there's something Dunky's not telling us.

And I bet that Peatboy could work out some way of proving that Dunky is in fact Michael Grade, thus properly explaining the 1985 cancellation crisis. Or something like that.

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GothCove1 in response to Message 17

Sent: 21/12/2002 13:32

NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!

Dr Who isn't real

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memphis_louie in response to Message 18

Sent: 21/12/2002 23:35

you're right, he's called simply ' the Doctor '

also did you know that Alasdair Mackay doesn't exist, or is that Santa ?

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From: Peatboy Funk in response to Message 19

Sent: 22/12/2002 21:21

Haoidh now,

I must protest in the strongest possible language (german probably,what with all the harsh words for puppy, pettle, butterfly etc....... much stronger than Siamese which sounds pretty p**fy like) but anyway where was I ..................?

Oh us, I have always brought my children up to beleive in the magic of Bod. Yes, alright he may be a fictional character brought about by centuries of urban, rural and 'beyond the cattle grid' myth, but to hundereds of children he is real. And now to publicly announce that he is merely a figment of the imagination ....... well... I chust dont know what to say. Kids all over lewis will be heartbroken to learn this..... could you not have been less heartless...........???????? I ......................................weep..................................................................................... Wont somebody think of the children???????????????

(Hope Bod brings me lots of nice presents this year!!!)

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GothCove1 in response to Message 20

Sent: 23/12/2002 09:19

STOP IT!!!

This is getting very silly!!

As for thinking of the children we'll leave that sort of thing to Mr Paul Gadd if you don't mind.